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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s the Deal with E-Bike Conversion Kits?</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://lovingthebike.com/uncategorized/whats-the-deal-with-e-bike-conversion-kits/comment-page-1#comment-9797</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been working with ebike kits for several years, ever since cobbling together my first home made ebike which I built on a tandem frame and replaced the rear seat with a snowboard and custom racks to carry up to 8 bags of groceries.  It was a fantastic first effort but was heavier than some cars I think.  That first bike was built with parts that I begged for, borrowed but never stole.  I think I invested about $400 total.  It was throttle operation only and I rigged it up so that I could lock the throttle on full power and then pedal furiously to wherever my destination was.  I had a few close calls with that setup so I went back to the drawing board.  Several iterations later I ended up with a much more expensive, but much more competent system by BionX on my Surly LHT.  Fantastic setup except for  top speed issue.  The BionX is easy to install and offers a decent proportional assist mode which is really the right way to do it in my opinion.  Throttles are fun but it&#039;s not a bike if you are throttling along the road - its a moped.  Eventually I found my way to higher tech mid-drive systems.  I tried the Cyclone (cheap Chinese cr@p), the EcoSpeed (too expensive and too noisy), and the Stoke Monkey (way too dangerous) . At the moment, I&#039;m riding a high performance rocket ship built around the Panasonic mid-drive system that I lifted out of a wrecked Kalkhoff.  It&#039;s not exactly a kit bike because you can&#039;t buy the kit - you need to find a complete bike to lift it out of.  But, I have to say it is the best of the best.  Quiet, smooth, powerful (at only 300W), fast and efficient.  I say, anything that keeps people out of cars is a good thing.  We should be encouraging ebikes - it is an enabling technology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been working with ebike kits for several years, ever since cobbling together my first home made ebike which I built on a tandem frame and replaced the rear seat with a snowboard and custom racks to carry up to 8 bags of groceries.  It was a fantastic first effort but was heavier than some cars I think.  That first bike was built with parts that I begged for, borrowed but never stole.  I think I invested about $400 total.  It was throttle operation only and I rigged it up so that I could lock the throttle on full power and then pedal furiously to wherever my destination was.  I had a few close calls with that setup so I went back to the drawing board.  Several iterations later I ended up with a much more expensive, but much more competent system by BionX on my Surly LHT.  Fantastic setup except for  top speed issue.  The BionX is easy to install and offers a decent proportional assist mode which is really the right way to do it in my opinion.  Throttles are fun but it&#8217;s not a bike if you are throttling along the road &#8211; its a moped.  Eventually I found my way to higher tech mid-drive systems.  I tried the Cyclone (cheap Chinese cr@p), the EcoSpeed (too expensive and too noisy), and the Stoke Monkey (way too dangerous) . At the moment, I&#8217;m riding a high performance rocket ship built around the Panasonic mid-drive system that I lifted out of a wrecked Kalkhoff.  It&#8217;s not exactly a kit bike because you can&#8217;t buy the kit &#8211; you need to find a complete bike to lift it out of.  But, I have to say it is the best of the best.  Quiet, smooth, powerful (at only 300W), fast and efficient.  I say, anything that keeps people out of cars is a good thing.  We should be encouraging ebikes &#8211; it is an enabling technology.</p>
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		<title>By: BeholdersEye</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeholdersEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think, get your kit on...I like biking but there is a limit how far I&#039;ll go everyday on a bike, an electric bike will get me on one allot more and further, all the better then using a freakn car.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, get your kit on&#8230;I like biking but there is a limit how far I&#8217;ll go everyday on a bike, an electric bike will get me on one allot more and further, all the better then using a freakn car.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://lovingthebike.com/uncategorized/whats-the-deal-with-e-bike-conversion-kits/comment-page-1#comment-8890</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A segway wouldn&#039;t give one an opportunity to pedal at all....just stand and go.  I think most people see the point of an e-bike to assist them, not do all the work for them.  Hopefully it&#039;s not just used to sit on, but to help people who wouldn&#039;t otherwise be able to cycle (either for physical, health or distance reasons).   
I know everyone has a different opinion, and we don&#039;t all have to agree, but I see an e-bike as a useful tool for people who otherwise might not be out there on their bike (and like I said before, hopefully they&#039;re doing as much of the work as possible).  I just don&#039;t see any benefits to a segway at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A segway wouldn&#8217;t give one an opportunity to pedal at all&#8230;.just stand and go.  I think most people see the point of an e-bike to assist them, not do all the work for them.  Hopefully it&#8217;s not just used to sit on, but to help people who wouldn&#8217;t otherwise be able to cycle (either for physical, health or distance reasons).   <br />
I know everyone has a different opinion, and we don&#8217;t all have to agree, but I see an e-bike as a useful tool for people who otherwise might not be out there on their bike (and like I said before, hopefully they&#8217;re doing as much of the work as possible).  I just don&#8217;t see any benefits to a segway at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dell Wilson</title>
		<link>http://lovingthebike.com/uncategorized/whats-the-deal-with-e-bike-conversion-kits/comment-page-1#comment-8889</link>
		<dc:creator>Dell Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could see recommending this to someone with physical disabilities. But for anyone healthy, I would recommend an unassisted bike for the health benefits. As long as I&#039;m healthy, I don&#039;t think I will ever consider an eBike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could see recommending this to someone with physical disabilities. But for anyone healthy, I would recommend an unassisted bike for the health benefits. As long as I&#8217;m healthy, I don&#8217;t think I will ever consider an eBike.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Starry</title>
		<link>http://lovingthebike.com/uncategorized/whats-the-deal-with-e-bike-conversion-kits/comment-page-1#comment-8888</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Starry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why not just buy a segway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not just buy a segway?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Ike Phillips</title>
		<link>http://lovingthebike.com/uncategorized/whats-the-deal-with-e-bike-conversion-kits/comment-page-1#comment-8887</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Ike Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like it as a tool to overcome physical handicaps that may prevent the enjoyments of cycling.  I dislike it as an aid for when you just don&#039;t feel like doing the work.

Great article, as usual.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it as a tool to overcome physical handicaps that may prevent the enjoyments of cycling.  I dislike it as an aid for when you just don&#8217;t feel like doing the work.</p>
<p>Great article, as usual&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl is Loving the Bike</title>
		<link>http://lovingthebike.com/uncategorized/whats-the-deal-with-e-bike-conversion-kits/comment-page-1#comment-8886</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl is Loving the Bike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahahaha, nice one Marty.  I enjoy riding with you no matter what kind of bike you&#039;re on or how fast you&#039;re going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahaha, nice one Marty.  I enjoy riding with you no matter what kind of bike you&#8217;re on or how fast you&#8217;re going.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl is Loving the Bike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl is Loving the Bike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comments on this, Bikeboy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments on this, Bikeboy.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl is Loving the Bike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl is Loving the Bike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your input and information on this subject.  Very appreciated, my man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input and information on this subject.  Very appreciated, my man.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl is Loving the Bike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl is Loving the Bike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great answer, Victor.  You seem to have the same thoughts on e-bikes as I do....thanks for giving us your perspective.  I&#039;ve never used one, but I know my Wife would get out there more if part of her commute was assisted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great answer, Victor.  You seem to have the same thoughts on e-bikes as I do&#8230;.thanks for giving us your perspective.  I&#8217;ve never used one, but I know my Wife would get out there more if part of her commute was assisted.</p>
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